21503. Regen, tsb, limbo, etc give him the win. I said he ran away to avoid being massacred. So again, Madara in character hits Momoshiki with I.T=GG Momoshiki. LMFAO. I am talking about all version before the 4th ninja war Kaguya kid, my god use your common sense. The posts I destroyed aren't my ideas. Your only "evidence" (lol) that the Limbo clones beat Naruto's shadow clones is due to their absence when the group exits Sasuke's Susanoo. Kaguya, Hagoromo, Madara vs Team Isshiki - Battles - Comic Vine Sure he was, and Momoshiki didn't get smacked by Susanoo fused Kurama with one move LMFAO. LMFAO. This was even after knowing that Naruto could make 1000s of clones yet The creator still couldn't see Naruto or sasuke winning against Madara. Kaguya feared him and Kinshiki for a reason. Now I know which version of Kaguya you're talking about. He has a Ph.D. and speaks five languages. Occam's Razor. and since he has his Truth Seek Orbs any dangerous moves Madara can shield himself from like I said Madara knows I.T so if he since the battle is pointless he is going to go for the for sure Victory. it goes to my point that Sasuke at 50% was stomping fused Momoshiki. He wouldnt since Momoshiki is not that weak, but Madaras technical superiority is absolutely amazing and it is the main reason as the points suggest for his ultimate victory in this comparison, as well as generally. If you are not going to quote me context is needed for me to know what you're taling about. We are debating Momoshiki Vs Madara, not Naruto and Sasuke being able to hold up against Madara because PIS. After absorbing Kinshikis power, Momoshiki could fight both Naruto and Sasuke in hand-to-hand combat at the same time. Too bad the Kishimoto doesn't agree with you otherwise he would have let Naruto and Sasuke beat Madara, But he himself stated they couldn't win. that was just first Form Ten tails. Apparently the reason for the clones disappearance can't be due to: But no, instead of the clones falling victim to infinite tsukuyomi or getting hit my meteor debrisnone of which would affect the limbo clones and still explain the reason why the clones aren't theremake assumptions with no proof of what happened, and declare that to be case. which is why I call it simply PIS. You have no statements or evidence to back up your claim, only a short fight that lasted 10 seconds and then headcanon. On top of that, Madara did nothing except defend. Naruto survived the limbo's because he was using an Extremely advanced Sage mode from the Sage of Six paths; normal Sage mode Gives you Sharringan perception a massive buff to his reaction time. He was able to create huge elemental monsters such as a demonic fire pheasant, dogs, and a golem, which was able to fight Kurama while wearing the Susanoo armor. Could Madara Uchiha beat Momoshiki? - Quora r/Naruto on Reddit: Three eyed Madara vs fused Momoshiki I replying saying to you that he wasn't getting massacred since they only had a short Fight when he then decided to go get his other Rinnegan. TheNarutoExpress 1 hr. I'm don't know what you're talking about, you need to quote me instead of going on tangents and paragraphs about something. The fact he can't since not every jutsu can be absorbed. pick a side and stick with it, stop flip flopping. Later on, the guy opted to run away from Naruto and Sasuke after nearly being sealed. Momoshiki's eyes didn't unlock Rinnegan. .why are you setting yourself up to get wrecked in here? This is a telltale sign you didn't get what I said. To summarize everything, Momoshiki can't beat Madara for many reasons: 1) Truth Seeking orbs Block and Negate all ninjutsu based attack. So Chakra differences don't have a massive role to play, especially considering everything he threw at them was countered. Okay, So can madara. As I already said Madara has planet+ level of chakra, and Chakra reserves when he took in the Ten tails. It wasn't just a portion, Because Kaguya had took the Chakra of at least 10K shinobi who Naruto boosted 3 x there powers. I said if how well they were performing can be exclusively linked to using senjutsu like you said, how come normal sage mode wasn't enough? Madara can still hurt Momoshiki if he manages to avoid his right palm (like Sasuke's chidori), but Momoshiki can't damage him with Ninjutsu anyway he hits. You seem to forget he hasn't done anything to them yet. That was not a claim, but a question you still haven't answered. The Simplest Answer is Momoshiki couldn't see it. meaning they don't use it. As you can see Ten tails Chakra, and chakra reserves are in the form of a planet. This the best Naruto filler, 10 Naruto characters who can beat Momoshiki, ranked. A Limbo clone going all out would solo Momo. I skip over your irrelevant post because most of them I already answer in one post. Naruto and sasuke where no where near that level, sasuke and Naruto was only doing good because they were using the Kryptonite of Madara, Obito, and virtually all Otsutsuki which is Sage Mode Jutsu. So stop with this silly premise. lasting 10 seconds doesn't equal being even with someone. Kaguya, the mother of all Chakra, was a princess who decided to end an age of endless war by eating the fruit of the Tree God and becoming the first person to use Chakra. Lasting 10 seconds in your eyes counts for doing "good" and fought "evenly" then okayI guess, but that doesn't mean they are even ROFL. He got wrecked by a Vanishing Rasengan in literally every continuity, What are you talking about? Madara also has better fighting experience. So there's no reason Momoshiki can't see the Limbo clone. they still couldn't defeat him. So again, Occam's Razor says he can't see it. How did Killer Bee survive Momoshiki? - TimesMojo Madara possesses a Katon nature chakra like all members of the Uchiha clan. 1 2 2 . Madara can still hurt Momoshiki if he manages to avoid his right palm (like Sasuke's chidori), but Momoshiki can't damage him with Ninjutsu anyway he hits. Right now, your argument only makes sense in terms of how much Chakra they all possess. Momoshiki can't see through limbo at all. Excuse me, but was Orochimaru more powerful than Itachi? Unfortunately, a confrontation between them started and lasted for generations, as they got reincarnated twice each. Occam's Razor buddy. On top of that, Hagoromo was the Juubi jinchuriki, with a complete Juubi, while Madara's Juubi lacked still half of the Kyuubi chakra. As I pointed out you can make the claim of Momoshiki being more powerful than Kaguya in the past when there were only 3 people alive with chakra. The Difference here is Madara has at least 70+ more years of fighting experience, knowledge of more jutsu and just being in war at a young age then Naruto and Sasuke combined. Obito used to be a cheerful and stubborn member of team Minato. He didn't even use a single Jutsu in that fight. You implied he would have gotten Massacred if he didn't Run. The planet-wide genjutsu that Naruto or his clones can't defend against since they lack a rinnegan. But after a mission went wrong, he was crushed by a boulder and left for dead. you clearly ignored everything I just said. Exactly. Momoshiki and Madara have exceptionally high levels of chakra and we couldnt really determine the victor, so weve decided to split the points here. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. About you mentioning the characters conditions of them being bloodlust, again that doesn't matter because Madara for the most part is going to hit Momoshiki with I.T since that was the first thing he went to do once he got his other eye back. everyone else didn't lose many people at all. the point is this Madara has Planet+ level chakra, and chakra reserves when he absorbed the Juubi. Threats in a sense that they were the only one who could do anything to him. No, I am talking about Kaguya in the past. 9)Madara is Immortal and can't die or be defeated unless you seal him with the seals Hagoromo gave Naruto and sasuke that they no longer have. Momoshiki has no hope of seeing that attack. You can't even give a proper refute. Sep 16, 2017 #10 Turrin said: Adult-Naruto and Sasuke needed additional help from Boruto to defeat Momoshiki, while Teen-Naruto and Sasuke were handling Madara by themselves. How many were killed by the Shinjuu's roots? He was using Six paths Sage mode which is far more efficient form of Sage Mode. Naruto and Sasuke Teamwork was also working against Kaguya. He could also absorb any technique he encountered, as well as an opponents chakra. The shinju didn't absorb the jutsu from most of the ninja present. Characters. Mismatch. Naruto and Sasuke had to toil to stop him from rampaging. Sasuke wasn't at 50%, and Sasuke wasn't stomping Momoshiki. Because that had been his goal the entire time. Four questions. I'm not going to get into any Momoshiki scaling since it's painfully obvious that he isn't close to Kaguya's level. when it returned Limbo clones had already defeated Naruto's shadow clones. Funny. Maddy godstomps. His aesthetical approach has been influenced By Hitchcock and Kubrick, while his favorite film writer is Roger Ebert. Momoshiki should think twice before facing this intimidating shinobi. Can Hashirama and Madara beat Momoshiki? Momoshiki vs. Three-Eyed Rinnegan Jbi Madara | FanVerse Madara has f. The God tree did Absorb a lot of Shinobi's go back and watch the scenes where it was taking almost everyone chakra until Naruto teleported rest of the people out. Fact is Momoshiki can't kill Madara since he is immortal, while Madara has plenty of ways to beat Momoshiki without even laying a hand on him. What's this location from? Inb4 FTL eye Beams Delta. We saw an even match up. So you don't actually have a valid reason as to why he can't see. Are you going to dismiss it and yet argue the Limbo clones are superior, while ignoring the only bit of information? In other words, there's no objectivity to your claim the Limbo clones are superior. ohdidn't see Both was blood lust, Well then Madara one shots with I.T since it is in character for him. Normal Sage mode gives a massive buff to all of your sense, and Reaction speed; Kurama Sage Mode is even better than normal sage mode. Hokage Naruto is still stronger than that version. Madara was born with a very strong Chakra even by the standards of the Uchiha Clan members. Like I said in character he is going to cast I.T. I already explained to you, Six path Sage mode is far better than the other Kurama sage mode, and normal Sage mode. Limbo+Light Fang=dead Momoshiki. He didn't do anything Because Kishimoto was Nerfing him so that Naruto and sasuke could live. Concession accepted. So Again Occam's Razor unless you can prove that Naruto or Sasuke didn't need the others help to beat Madara the fact remains that Naruto said it himself that both him and sasuke was going to defeat him not Naruto Solo or Sasuke Solo. Momoshiki's absorption is basically Madara's Preta Path. Madara did win, His goal was to Activate I.T which he did. She Couldn't create portals like she was casually doing against Naruto and Sasuke. 4075. Can you give me the name of the manga you read? He didn't do anything Because Kishimoto was Nerfing him so that Naruto and sasuke could live. What stoping Madara from absorbing every Jutsu Naruto and Sasuke have since he had Both his rinnegan? This is hilarious mate. He was the one who explained it to Naruto what he does and what not. He can also create a mokuton clone which he says is perfect because he is undetectable except by himself thanks to his Sharingan. There are several instances of individuals who don't possess nearly as much chakra as their opponent and still win. Momoshiki was weakening to the point he couldn't even move, he literally sat their in defeat, he only got his second wind when that one guy fired Jutsu at him. His new eyes were so powerful that they allowed him to fight many duels against Hashirama Senju, which forged his legend. Probably Madara because of his mastery of SO6P Techniques. Madara tanked hits from the strongest taijutsu fighter in the series (also in a weaker form and while not immortal). She has access to the Byakugan, Rinnegan, and Sharingan. Madara is not a idiot like Naruto he is the best fighter and tactician in Naruto history. WHich version of Madara can beat Fused Momoshiki? I showed you Madara Absorbing Sage Chakra and Sage Jutsu, I showed you Madara Absorbing Regular Ninjutsu, I showed you MAdara absorbing Gaara's Sand. Madara vs Momoshiki | VS Battles Wiki Forum Naruto and Sasuke only had one Job, they couldn't even do that. Im pretty sure the databook was referring to physicals. Momoshiki has a Rinneganso he can see Limbo. Then your previous post about the Blank period Naruto, and Hokage Naruto being able to bully War arc naruto is irrelevant post since you are back peddling saying chakra difference don't have a massive role to play. MAdara was still very much active since left the cave after he gained Rinnegan and placed his eyes into Nagato who lived in the rain villain. Isshiki vs. Momoshiki, Jbi Madara, and Jbi Obito | FanVerse Naruto and sasuke where no where near that level. ROFL this never get's old. Before he even got his other Rinnegan he had to run from them to avoid getting decimated. Madara is juubi jinchuriki and has shit ton of chakras. What would this mean for your point then? ^ To bad no one agrees with that headcanon you made up. 10) Madara has larger chakra pool and Reserves. After being defeated and killed by Boruto, he decided to mark Uzumaki as his vessel and give him a Karma. 11) Madara has Senjutsu so he has many ways to harm Momoshiki and kill Momoshiki. Naruto: 5 Characters You Didn't Know Itachi Could Beat ( & 5 He Stands Being able to Sense shadows from another Dimension is a big difference. LMFAO, claiming Momoshiki doesn't use his Rinnegan for seeing as I just pointed out to you, he uses them for Absorbing jutsu or chakra. Hamura is yet another character who received little attention. Gaara is basically a one-trick pony typ. Even though we didn't get to see much of him, Hagoromo is one of the strongest characters to ever appear on the show. when she was having her sons she was weakened as she couldn't stop in coming arrows. PIS was Boruto's Vanishing Resengan knocking out Momoshiki, and freeing the Kages but him being Killed by Boruto and Naruto's power combined wasn't PIS. If you want to think that then like you said it your opinion, but don't claim it as facts. which, means she was far weaker Occam's Razor says she was far weaker in the past. so, weaker Ten tails then the current one. Momoshikis Fire Release was strong enough to overcome Sasukes Susanoo and severely burn him. From then on, he has the six powers of Rikud, his techniques as well as all the skills and advantages related to the Rinnegan, which are of a completely different level than those of Nagato. Momoshiki does not stand a chance against this family. Be the first one to comment on this story. At the height of his power, Hashirama was even able to beat Madara. Kaguya ended up creating an army of white Zetsu in order to fight Momoshiki and Kinshiki. Madara Uchiha was a legendary figure from the Warring States era who was revived during the Fourth Great Ninja War. LMFAO, If the Kages could follow his movements, I sure Madara would see past everything Momoshiki does. It just mean they have crap Durability really, this was a response to your clones being able to be dispelled by strong enough attack. To my point, it shouldn't be hard to believe Limbo clones can all the abilities of Madara, when Naruto shadow clones are able to go Kurama Avatar, and EDO Madara can make his wood clones all go Susanoo. Follow us here for latest news & updates. He would later become the ancestor of the Hashirama and Uzumaki clans. And the final category also goes to Madara, simply because he is one of the best shinobi to ever have existed. Like the other tsutsuki, Momoshiki was gifted with extremely powerful chakra. The absence of clones on the battlefield means Madara's clones beat them? Naruto even in the Last struggled against Toneri who wasn't even planet level until the very end when he absorbed that Artificial sun and was going to one shot the earth and Naruto at that point couldn't do shit but watch, only until Toneri was about to explode from all the chakra and Naruto saved him is when Toneri had a change of heart. threats, yes, since he stated everyone else were just pebbles to him. What matters here is the quality of their chakra, not quantity. #1 Gokukid2005 Fused Momoshiki Kaguya during last arc Win by K.o, Death, Incap, can't win by BFR Give reasons for why the person will win 3. already know that, What I am saying is he can turn Momoshiki to Dust by Infusing Yin/yang together with those robs. Only advantage Momo has are physicals and Madara already took way worse from Guy and regened back. How is that not PIS? He is a looming threat who may return one day. because Six path Sage mode gives Naruto the ability to sense presences from another Dimension, while the others don't. Madara beats the crap out of momoshiki, momo was vaped by a friggin COR while madara took a Rikudou senjutsu powered Chou Odaama Rasenshuriken in a weakened state and all the while not immortal with nothing but a lil gash in his belly. He loses horribly then because Momoshiki is stronger and faster than Madara. He was one of the two only two Uchiha to hold the power of the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan and the Rinnegan. Momoshiki at that point was weakened from taking the beating of his life by Naruto and Sasuke who where at 50% of their powers Naruto was at 50% Chakra, not overall power. Disclaimer: All external media in this article are the property of their respective owners, and Sportskeeda claims no ownership of the same. This situation was easier than we actually thought it would be. in other words PIS. where you not trying to make that same case for Adult Naruto and Sasuke against War arc Versions? Momoshiki tsutsuki is one of the more powerful members of the tsutsuki Clan, but he is no match for Madara Uchiha. The only way you can gather that Sasuke can't hurt Limbo is if you ignore that it's Six Paths Chakra in general that would be effective on the clonesnot to mention that the previous point didn't even address Limbo to begin with. Momoshiki dodged Gaara's sand, parried Darui, then when Sasuke jumped in he held off Sasuke's attacks, but at that point there were 4 people on Momoshiki at once. Kaguya Like I said She was incapable of using Chakra Taxing abilities. Why so eager to pin something on me? The only difference is the special ability the Rinnegan possess, which varies from user to user anyway. People try to use the Novels to try and say Momoshiki is solar system level because he absorbed a planet, which is false; By that same logic it would mean base Madara is planet+ level since he absorbed the Juubi which was stated twice to have planet level chakra, and chakra reserves as well as Absorbed Kaguya. He would later inhabit the moon with his children to protect the Juubi statue. all they could hope to do with Normal Sage mode is hurt them, they can't win with it otherwise they wouldn't have upgraded to better sage mode. wrong, he was able to damage six path Obito with Normal Sage mode. 3 eyed Juubidara, seriously? 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. Sage Rinnegan Madara 4. This was before he had his Other Eye which Madara told Obito that he can only use the full power of an eye when both the original eyes are together so it wasn't like he could absorb it yet since he needed his other eye to do when. Regardless like I said Madara has larger Chakra, and Chakra reserves than Adult Sasuke who had 50% Sasuke's chakra level was never givenand one dimension hop wouldn't drain him either, seeing as he Rinnegan was still fully charged. Again, Madara was portrayed as inferior prior to acquiring his second rinnegan. I haven't given the reasons as to why yet. Limbo is an invisible attack from another Dimension. Guy had help Via Kakashi Kumi Madara's Truth Seek Orbs away, other than that Guy wouldn't have been able to touch him. 4) Madara can absorb any Jutsu Momoshiki fire at him with his Rinnegan. Six paths madara vs momoshiki - Battles - Comic Vine So he would have to fight 5 Madaras at the same time 4 of which he cant even target. This only requires that he sees the change in chakra nature, not the invisible jutsu itself. 1 2 Next TauanVictor 4,637 2,464 Mar 18, 2021 #1 Madara Uchiha VS Momoshiki tsutsuki Fight Location: Naruto and Sasuke VS Momoshiki Starting Distance: 500 Meters Madara Jbi Jinchriki Dual Rinnegan + Rinnesharingan and Momoshiki with Kinshiki Absorbed will be used. Don't pretend like Momoshiki didn't just grab like a hand full of Chakra pills. You basically just destroyed your older Post about you asking me why didn't Naruto just fight them in Normal Sage Mode, which this proves why. And quite easily at that. This is a lie. which, means she was far weaker Occam's Razor says she was far weaker in the past. Boruto coming out on top in a Rasengan clash against Momoshiki wielding an equally powerful Rasengan is the most atrocious thing in the new era so far. In the end, were going to give our final verdict and explanation on why Madara would ultimately be able to defeat Momoshiki in a direct fight. Momoshiki vs. Madara: Who Would Win and Why? - Fiction Horizon Boruto with the combined powers of Naruto beat Momoshiki. Disclaimer: This list is based on the writers opinion and contains spoilers from Naruto and Boruto. When Naruto engaged him alone, Madara tired to escape only to be hit by an RS. Both Madara and Momoshiki can absorb jutsu but the difference is that Madara has jutsu that can't be absorbed like Meteorites, Limbo and the Deva Path. Madara would wreck Naruto at 50%, sasuke sure as hell can't beat Madara with 50% of his power. Madara is defiantly coming out on top. Madara has the clear advantage here he has everything Sasuke has except Amenojikara, portal opening. So I have to clap you again in here okay. On top of that Momoshiki using Chakra pills to do all this. Madara has yin/yang release Momoshiki has only yin release. But they took some of her Chakra at birth, leading to her growing obsession with reclaiming it. Madara can summon twenty-five clones of himself and then transform them into humanoid-looking Susan. No they didn't. Madara has both Yin/ and Yang, he could infuse those together and turn Momoshiki into dust. The only advantage Madara had was his insane versatility. Still, it is interesting to see what would happen if the two worlds clashed and that is exactly what we are going to do in this article. The fact he can't since not every jutsu can be absorbed. With Normal Sage mode, Naruto was able to perceive and feel how powerful the ten tails Was. use Common sense, you said Momoshiki was better fighter than Madara, I responded by saying that is assumption since they never fought. It's clear as day that physicals go solely to Momoshiki here. Madara in short stomps Momoshiki. also, he sure had a hard time with Shin. had He fought Kaguya currenly, Momoshiki would have gotten Wrecked and one shotted by T.I. That Proves they were far superior buddy. You should know this. Sasuke Saw Limbo because his Eyes had unlocked the Rinnegan, He saw Limbo with his eyes, not with his Fucking hands like you are trying to claim for momoshiki LMFAO. Not to mention he ate these words when fighting 8th Gate Guy and even praised him for it. There was no response, we're not talking in real time lol. you need senjutsu in order to Bypass the Truth seeking orbs since it Negates all jutsu that isn't senjutsu. Occam's Razor says Momoshiki only uses the Rinnegan for Absorbing not seeing. You are the one who brought this topic upall I said was that Madara was relative to War-Arc Naruto and Sasuke, which is the plain truth. Momo can see through limbo, defend from TSB, and dealed with a way better version of madaras susanoo. I'd Like to point out that it is headcanon to assume any different then what the scans say about Limbo. There was no "lasting 10 seconds" against Limbo clones. SO6S Naruto is still naruto prime version. Isshiki vs Madara 341 results 1 2 3 4 5 . Madara. Alsoyou are aware that War Arc versions of Six Paths Naruto and Sasuke were already tired when those powerups came aboutright? Answer (1 of 21): Yes. Later comments on this thread are probably going to disagree with me, so let me. However, the power gap between Isshiki and Momoshiki is too big. #1 Implications: -Hagoromo is not Ten Tails Jinchuriki -Hagoromo has rinnegan and mengekyou sharingan -Hamura has tenseigan -Momoshiki has 3 rinnegans and byakugan -Momoshiki absorbed Kinshiki -Momoshiki is anime version -Madara is Ten Tails Jinchuriki with the chakra tree absorbed -Madara has rinnegan and rinne-sharingan No morals, who wins? Madara had the clear power advantage against them, especially since the Ten tails it self has small planet to planet + level chakra and chakra reserves. Hagaromo stated he was going to help them control their powers and to love people. - Madara has better avatar (a juubi enhanced PS will be much stronger than momo's golem). After a Weakened Nauruto and Sasuke combined Susanoo with kurama Momoshiki got Wrecked by a 50% Naruto and sasuke. I literally had to bold letters for you because I swear you act like you have hard time read or something, because you skip over points like no ones business. He got literaly battered by weakened Naruto and Sasuke in less than a minute, meanwhile Naruto and Sasuke could not even put Madara down until the end. There isn't a single person in this entire series that can beat her 1v1. It was. Sasuke saw Boruto's attack which is why he told him to use it, because he knew Momoshiki wouldn't be able to see it which he was right. Notice how I said Madara was active combat-wiseand to refute this you proceed to list off events that are not combat related. You are being willfully ignorant here, Because we only see Naruto's Clones fight the limbo for like 10 seconds. The brief scuffle we saw gave no indication of who was gaining or losing ground. Makes no damn sense. He wanted to create a world where his siblings would live happily, but this goal led him down a dark path of betrayal and hatred. Moreover, Sasuke was able to see Momoshiki's Ghost when he stopped time as well for that brief second. everyone else didn't lose many people at all. So, If 50% Sasuke was able to do that then 100% Sasuke can solo Momoshiki and take him out just fine as long as he doesn't spam any jutsu. 2 years ago #2 Edited By MCU-Defender333 Hasn't this basically been done before? Madara has imortal body Momoshiki does not. Is that it, this itself isn't enough to suggest anything as we don't know how many trips Sasuke's made here. Reply . This is no brainer. One of the main antagonists of the show as well as one of the most powerful beings to ever exist, Madara was a powerful and capable ninja who became obsessed with the idea of eternal peace. Winning Via touching your opponent is one of the easies roads to victory anyone could ask for. Look at that showed him absorbing Jutsu from Sage mode Naruto, Showed Madara absorbing Sand from Gaara, then he out right said Rinnegan can absorb All Jutsu. I don't recall a struggle till the end. Now, both Momoshiki and Madara seem to be strong and have caused trouble for the protagonists in Naruto and Boruto. Momoshiki could control his hair, using it to bind and strangle his opponent, and their speed was enough to bypass Gaaras Sand Shield defenses. He is currently writing for Fiction Horizon on a permanent basis. Reminder he was running away from them to avoid being massacred all because he didn't have his other eye. The protagonist of the series, the Jinchuriki of the Nine-tails, and the reincarnation of Ashura, Naruto has acquired such powers that it is hard to imagine someone stronger.

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